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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:11 am

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Rules of the room: only civilised arguments and counter arguments are to be made. At no point shall personal insults be utilised, and at no point should one person's ideas be forced upon another. Posts that do not follow these rules will be deleted, and those who made them dealt with accordingly.

I shall leave it up to someone to post the first question, happy arguing! Very Happy And try to keep the politics to a minimum Smile.


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Post  Smurfy on Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:36 am

Is sex with sheep always wrong? silent

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Post  Lord~Deathspeed on Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:39 am

ROFL lmao yes cos they are sheep x_x is this wrong and if oyur a human scratch you would only do a human...oid xD

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Post  Lord~Saviour on Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:55 am

its not,

that is aslong as you are a sheep or got a written testimony from the sheep.

But if the urges are there...... better see a shrink

and no wearing woolen clothes does not make you a sheep

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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:17 am

Not if you're a sheep, but otherwise, it could be seen as immoral. As Saviour said, you would need consent from the sheep for it not to be classed as rape, and that might be hard to come by. Smile

P.S. I was hoping for a slightly more high-brow first question, but you've gotta start somewhere I guess. Razz

Next question on the agenda:

What is the answer to this question?

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Post  Lord~Saviour on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:52 am

you may not like it but it is 42!

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Post  Smurfy on Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:49 am

That's the answer, not the question Razz

In case anybody wants to guess this really hard one,

What is the meaning of life ^^

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Post  Lord~Saviour on Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:00 am

Lord~Saviour wrote:you may not like it but it is 42!

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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:43 am

actualy question was: what is the answear to the bbigest question in all universe, live and all other(if i remember right)

as for the sheep... meh i don't mind as long as sheep doesn't mind


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Post  Guest on Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:47 am

Lord'Smurfy wrote:Is sex with sheep always wrong? silent

ask a new zelander. Laughing

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Post  Smurfy on Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:16 am

Hugh's gonna be mad now tongue

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Post  Lord~Deathspeed on Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:22 am

ROFL I didn't know sheep rape was linked to NZ Surprised I throught it was canda :O
and hte question of life is 7 o_O so some big 1880 coged computer worked out Suspect

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Post  Lord~Saviour on Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:39 am

do you mean the question or the answer?

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:09 am

Life has no meaning. If you accidentally drop your milk on the way to home it has no meaning either.

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Post  Lord~Saviour on Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:17 am

if you drop your milk, it means your to weak to carry it... or just have slippery fingers

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:17 am

Is maths inherent in the universe, or is maths merely a human tool created to understand the universe?

I personally stand by the first option. I fail to see how something as hugely successful and infinite as maths could be a human invention. The other day my teacher showed me the most mind-bending equation I have ever come across, Euler's identity:



It links e, the irrational number of calculus (i.e. gradients), pi, the irrational number of trigonometry (i.e. sine, cosine, tangent), i, the imaginary unit (i.e. the square root of -1), addition, the most basic mathematical operation, 1, the multiplicative identity for all numbers (i.e. multiplied by 1, any number remains the same) and 0, which remains constant when multiplied by any number. How could a human invention have come up with something so profound?

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Post  Lord~Deathspeed on Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:42 am

nice, got a masteres degree in maths ?Razz can't see how the meaining of life is a number tbh >_>

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:54 am

nice one Iggy!

and you're right about your answer, we humans definitely didn't invent math, it's even more likely that math invented us.
think about this: if aliens will show up on earth tomorrow, there will be one common language that us and them speak: the language of math. 0+1 always equals 1, no matter if on earth or on any other planet; and these two numbers, zero and one, are in fact the only numbers there are, all other numbers are their "children" (2 = 1+1; 3 = 2+1 = 1+1+1 and so on).

now what about the following question: is 0 (zero) a number? a number is defined by being something with a fixed, definite value; the zero has no value though.

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Post  Lord~Saviour on Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:24 am

wel true and not, who says the 0 and 1 is a 0 and 1 in their civilation, the concept might be the same , but the symbols could be different.
however a rose is still a rose even when not called a rose Razz

and 0 not being a number, wel not having a fixed is also a fixed. i mean if someone doesnt have a style its stil a style.
but then again the year 0 is also a misconcept, since you dont say "zero'ost" year but first year. lol i think 0 is a start Razz

and 0 not having a value then you could say its nothing, but they say if you have everything(1) you have nothing(0) so 0=1 and 1=0 oO?

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:53 am

I do A2 further maths Deathspeed Smile.

And 0 is a number, that represents the concept of nothing.

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:02 am

actualy it means you must turn arround and get new milk from shop

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Post  Guest on Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:15 am

by all laws it also means that e^(i*pi)=-1.... i can't seem to udnerstand how thats possible

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Post  Guest on Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:07 am

this is possible with complex numbers, those numbers that can also calculate the square root of (-1), which is undefined in the field of real numbers.

i was curious and entered this equation into R (don't have maple installed anymore). here's what came out:


as you can see, it is true; "-1+0i" is a complex number which equals the real number "-1".
don't mind the imaginary 1.2e-16i part, thats the floating-point arithmetic precision error of the computer.

and yea i know, i could have used 1i right away instead of defining i Very Happy

about aliens and numbers, of course the symbols are different but math is all about concepts, the symbols aren't that important. the arecibo message for example uses the most simple number system, the binary system, which any intelligent being capable of doing math would understand, read here.

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Post  Lord~Deathspeed on Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:44 am

i forgot how to do algibra again -.-

oh yeah computers "talk" in 0 and 1s as some people around here should know... that is called binery anyone know what the second one is ?


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