Iggy's Debating Society

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I shall leave it up to someone to post the first question, happy arguing! And try to keep the politics to a minimum .

Is sex with sheep always wrong?

ROFL lmao yes cos they are sheep x_x is this wrong and if oyur a human you would only do a human...oid xD

its not,

that is aslong as you are a sheep or got a written testimony from the sheep.

But if the urges are there...... better see a shrink

and no wearing woolen clothes does not make you a sheep

Not if you're a sheep, but otherwise, it could be seen as immoral. As Saviour said, you would need consent from the sheep for it not to be classed as rape, and that might be hard to come by.

P.S. I was hoping for a slightly more high-brow first question, but you've gotta start somewhere I guess.

Next question on the agenda:

What is the answer to this question?

you may not like it but it is 42!

That's the answer, not the question

In case anybody wants to guess this really hard one,

What is the meaning of life ^^

actualy question was: what is the answear to the bbigest question in all universe, live and all other(if i remember right)

as for the sheep... meh i don't mind as long as sheep doesn't mind

Lord'Smurfy wrote:Is sex with sheep always wrong?

ask a new zelander.

Hugh's gonna be mad now

ROFL I didn't know sheep rape was linked to NZ I throught it was canda :O
and hte question of life is 7 o_O so some big 1880 coged computer worked out

do you mean the question or the answer?

Life has no meaning. If you accidentally drop your milk on the way to home it has no meaning either.

if you drop your milk, it means your to weak to carry it... or just have slippery fingers

Is maths inherent in the universe, or is maths merely a human tool created to understand the universe?

I personally stand by the first option. I fail to see how something as hugely successful and infinite as maths could be a human invention. The other day my teacher showed me the most mind-bending equation I have ever come across, Euler's identity:



It links e, the irrational number of calculus (i.e. gradients), pi, the irrational number of trigonometry (i.e. sine, cosine, tangent), i, the imaginary unit (i.e. the square root of -1), addition, the most basic mathematical operation, 1, the multiplicative identity for all numbers (i.e. multiplied by 1, any number remains the same) and 0, which remains constant when multiplied by any number. How could a human invention have come up with something so profound?

nice, got a masteres degree in maths ? can't see how the meaining of life is a number tbh >_>

nice one Iggy!

and you're right about your answer, we humans definitely didn't invent math, it's even more likely that math invented us.
think about this: if aliens will show up on earth tomorrow, there will be one common language that us and them speak: the language of math. 0+1 always equals 1, no matter if on earth or on any other planet; and these two numbers, zero and one, are in fact the only numbers there are, all other numbers are their "children" (2 = 1+1; 3 = 2+1 = 1+1+1 and so on).

now what about the following question: is 0 (zero) a number? a number is defined by being something with a fixed, definite value; the zero has no value though.

wel true and not, who says the 0 and 1 is a 0 and 1 in their civilation, the concept might be the same , but the symbols could be different.
however a rose is still a rose even when not called a rose

and 0 not being a number, wel not having a fixed is also a fixed. i mean if someone doesnt have a style its stil a style.
but then again the year 0 is also a misconcept, since you dont say "zero'ost" year but first year. lol i think 0 is a start

and 0 not having a value then you could say its nothing, but they say if you have everything(1) you have nothing(0) so 0=1 and 1=0 oO?

I do A2 further maths Deathspeed .

And 0 is a number, that represents the concept of nothing.

actualy it means you must turn arround and get new milk from shop

by all laws it also means that e^(i*pi)=-1.... i can't seem to udnerstand how thats possible

this is possible with complex numbers, those numbers that can also calculate the square root of (-1), which is undefined in the field of real numbers.

i was curious and entered this equation into R (don't have maple installed anymore). here's what came out:


as you can see, it is true; "-1+0i" is a complex number which equals the real number "-1".
don't mind the imaginary 1.2e-16i part, thats the floating-point arithmetic precision error of the computer.

and yea i know, i could have used 1i right away instead of defining i

about aliens and numbers, of course the symbols are different but math is all about concepts, the symbols aren't that important. the arecibo message for example uses the most simple number system, the binary system, which any intelligent being capable of doing math would understand, read here.

i forgot how to do algibra again -.-

oh yeah computers "talk" in 0 and 1s as some people around here should know... that is called binery anyone know what the second one is ?


example <color=02ab33> sorry rusty at HTML

Binary: 01001100 01101111 01110010 01100100
Hex: 4c 6f 72 64
BASE64: TG9yZA==